Monday, July 11, 2022

DOD: Discrete Germanium Overdrive Preamp 250

Why? Why not...  just a little experiment.   It sounds killer.

As I’ve been playing with discrete op-amps recently, I thought I might try a germanium one.  I was sure it would be awful but I felt I had to try anyway.  So it isn’t awful - works pretty well in fact.

Being a Distortion + based circuit, the hard clipping diodes do a lot of the work, especially at lower gain settings before the op-amp starts to clip - but at higher gain settings, the op-amp also clips, which is where the germanium should be adding some extra flavour compared to a regular op-amp.   

DOD: Discrete Germanium Overdrive Preamp 250

 
Sziklia pair instead of Darlington, using a silicon/germanium hybrid if you don't have any NPN germanium transistors - it works about the same (I also tested it on the breadboard), although you need a 2k2 resistor to get the collector to bias around 4.5v

DOD: Discrete Germanium Overdrive Preamp 250


 
DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE PREAMP - BREADBOARD PHOTO




Notes: 

  • I accidentally used a 4k7 resistor on the Darlington emitter on the breadboard, which was subsequently used for the video grabs from my scope below - so maybe a little less opamp clipping than it should have provided
  • Germanium PNP transistors:  Fujitsu 2SA267
  • Germanium NPN transistors:  Sony 2SD128
  • GE diode also works in the opamp - a very minor difference in compression 
  • Clipping diodes can be any of your favourite hard clipping combinations (DOD 250 is silicon, MXR Distortion + is germanium).  I liked one of each, or put it on a switch for the best of both worlds
  • The small capacitor usually found across the output and inverting input of the op-amp is not needed
  • The 2.2n caps are what's found in the EQD Grey channel.  These would normally be 1n on a Distortion +, and a 250 only has a 1n across the clipping diodes


DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE ON THE SCOPE

Output


 
Opamp output
Fairly clean most of the way and then starts to clip at the end.  This was using a standard B1M pot.


Same again, but this time with the 3k3 on the collector of the Darlington, and a 4k7 instead of a 47k in series with the gain control.  I also have a silicon/germanium combo for the hard clippers, so the output level is reduced.

 output - quite a decent square wave coming out now.   A C500K pot seems to work best for the gain sweep.



LTSPICE SIM

The images below all use a 500k gain pot, with the R5 resistor changing values.  While the Distortion + uses a 1meg gain pot, it really has no impact on this, as gain increases as resistance is reduced.  
  • Distortion + uses a 4k7 for R5, which allows for more gain, which also changes the frequency response at high gain settings (mid-hump)
  • DOD 250 has a 47k, which means less gain, but it remains relatively flat by comparison





Increase the input cap C1 to 22n or 47n for a little more bass, and/or increase C5 up to 1u.  I think the stock values are pretty decent, as I usually prefer a fairly flat response.  

This is the response when changing C5 - as you can see, it has the largest effect at the highest gain setting.  In the next two images, gain is swept from 1 - 500k in 100k steps.  R5 is 4.7k



Same again, but this time changing C1 - you can see C1 has more effect at lower gain settings.  Noting that these were both done with R5 at 4.7k, if you are using a 47k resistor in this position, changing C1 will probably provide more benefits if you want a bit more bass.  



DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE PREAMP - VERO LAYOUTS

DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE PREAMP - VERO LAYOUTS


DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE PREAMP - VERO LAYOUTS


DISCRETE DOD OVERDRIVE PREAMP - BUILD PHOTO


2 comments:

  1. Did you make the op amp with an AC128 germanium triode? When Gain is adjusted to the maximum, will it get out of control like Fuzz Face, or will it be closer to the irritability of DOD250?

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    1. Hi Ding - I used some Japanese germanium transistors. The AC transistors are on the schematic, as there aren’t many germanium transistor models available for LTspice.

      It does not sound like a fuzz. It sounds like a DOD250 but with a slightly different character and feel.

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