Showing posts with label TRANSFORMER. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TRANSFORMER. Show all posts

Sunday, April 12, 2026

REFERENCE: Power Transformer Testing

Testing an Unknown Power Transformer

Every now and then I end up with a transformer on the bench that I know came from valve gear, but I did not take enough notes when I pulled it.  That was the case here.  I knew this one came out of an old Zenith radiogram, but that was about it, so the job was to work backwards and identify the windings properly.

Naturally, anything involving a power transformer deserves caution.  Unknown windings, mains voltage, and potentially lethal secondary voltages are not something to rush into.  It is worth stopping and thinking before connecting anything, or even attempting this.  

What I Knew Going In

In this case, I knew the donor unit ran on 240V and used a pair of cathode-biased 6V6, along with preamp and phase inverter valves, plus a valve rectifier.  

That gives a rough idea of the sort of transformer it is likely to be, but only in a broad sense - it does not confirm the actual heater voltage, HT voltage, or current capability, nor whether it actually works to begin with.


What a Typical Valve Amp Transformer Looks Like

A typical valve amp power transformer usually has a primary winding connected to the wall supply, one or more low-voltage secondary windings for heaters, and a higher-voltage secondary for the HT supply.  


Where I Start

First up is a visual inspection.  Before I go anywhere near it with power, I want to know whether there are any obvious signs of trouble - burnt areas, dodgy repairs, brittle or damaged insulation, loose leads, corrosion, or anything else that makes the transformer look questionable.  Basically, I am looking for any reason not to go any further.  Now is not the time for blind optimism.  

If it passes that first check, I start with the multimeter on continuity, just to sort the loose leads into groups that appear to belong together.  Often the original colour coding will help here too, if it is still clear enough to trust.


A low-resistance winding is often a heater winding, and a higher-resistance winding is often HT, but resistance on its own does not prove the voltage.  Winding resistance mainly reflects the wire size and the number of turns, and practical transformer behaviour also depends on inductance, losses and loading.

So I use resistance readings to sort and narrow things down, not as final identification.

Warning: It is also worth checking each winding to the transformer core, frame or bell ends.  Normally, I want to see open circuit there. 

Spotting a Likely Centre Tap

Where resistance readings are especially useful is in spotting a likely centre tap on a HT winding.

If one winding measures, say, about 74 ohms end to end, and about 38 ohms from each end to a third wire, that strongly suggests a centre-tapped winding.  Each half measures about half the total, which is exactly what you would expect.  A large resistance also suggests that it is not a heater wire.



In the case of this transformer, the HT is the only winding with a centre tap.  The 6.3v heater does not have one, which is not uncommon on older transformers.  Trying to confirm a heater centre tap using the method is not reliable, due to the very low resistances that will be involved.  

The Better Test

Once the winding groups are sorted out, the next step is the one that really matters: apply a small known AC voltage to one winding and measure what appears on the others.

That is the proper way to identify an unknown transformer, because the measured voltage ratios directly reflect the turns ratios. 

It is also the point where you stop guessing and start mapping what the transformer actually does. If you put a known AC voltage on one winding and get a much higher voltage on another, you are clearly looking at a step-up relationship. If you get a much lower voltage, it is a step-down relationship.

This is the step that tells you which winding is the likely primary, which winding is the HT secondary, whether a winding is centre tapped, and what the heater winding voltages actually are.

That is a much firmer basis than ohms readings alone.

Bringing It Up on Mains (really, really carefully)

This is the point where things can get dangerous in a hurry.

Once I think I have identified the primary, I power it up and check the secondary voltages with no load connected. I use a Variac with a current meter, start with low voltage, and keep a close eye on the current draw. Some no-load current is normal, but I do not want to see anything excessive.

This is a completely hands-off test. The leads need to be properly secured on a clean bench before anything is powered up.  I want a clear view of the multimeter and the current meter, and I do not want to be moving probes or wires around while it is live.  

The Variac starts at zero and switched off.  Then I bring it up slowly, while watching, listening, and paying attention to how the transformer behaves.  Once I have the readings, the Variac goes back to zero and gets switched off.  Then I double-check that before touching anything.

At this point, I am not expecting the transformer to draw zero current  - some no-load current is normal. 

What I want to see is sensible voltages and sensible behaviour. 

If the transformer stays reasonably quiet and cool, and the secondary voltages look believable, that is a good sign. 

If it draws obviously too much current, gets hot quickly, or starts buzzing and complaining, I would stop immediately and reconsider all previous steps and the safety of the transformer. 

What the No-Load Voltages Tell You

The unloaded voltages are important because they confirm the winding functions far more reliably than resistance ever can.

A low-voltage winding that sits around the expected few volts AC is very likely a heater winding. 

A winding that gives you two equal voltages from each end to a centre lead is very likely a centre-tapped HT winding. 

Once that is established, you can start thinking sensibly about whether the transformer is suitable for the sort of amp you have in mind.

There is also a practical reason for checking the transformer unloaded before going any further.  Transformer behaviour changes under load. Whitlock points out that when a load is connected, the secondary current opposes the excitation flux and the primary draws additional current accordingly.  So if all you want at this stage is identification, unloaded testing keeps the picture simpler.

A Couple of Easy Mistakes

One easy mistake is to overstate what a resistance reading tells you.  It can suggest a heater winding or suggest a centre tap, but it does not confirm the operating voltage.

And one more: if the transformer came from old or unknown equipment, do not assume the original primary was intended for today’s wall voltage, or is in fact even vaguely suited to your wall voltage.

Bottom Line

For me, the sensible order is:
  1. visual check
  2. continuity,
  3. resistance,
  4. small AC voltage test to confirm,
  5. then a careful mains bring-up and unloaded voltage check.

That way you use each test for what it is actually good at.  Continuity tells you what belongs together. Resistance helps sort likely windings and likely centre taps. AC voltage testing tells you what the windings really are. Then a careful live test confirms whether the transformer behaves sensibly at its intended input.

Resistance gets you close. Voltage confirms it.




⚠️ Caution — High Voltage:

Transformers can produce dangerously high voltages, even when powered by a seemingly low-voltage AC source. The windings in tube amplifier transformers are capable of stepping voltages up or down significantly. Always assume exposed leads may carry lethal voltages, and take proper safety precautions. Use insulated tools, never work on live circuits unless qualified, and ensure your test setup is isolated and safe.

Sunday, April 20, 2025

REFERENCE: Output Transformer Testing

How to Test an Output Transformer

Got an old output transformer with no markings or a transformer in an amp that your are not sure about?  Maybe one used for a 100v line system?  Don’t toss it just yet — with a few simple tests, you can figure out what it is, how it’s wired, and whether it’s usable for your amp build. This guide walks you through the process using a multimeter, a low-voltage AC source, and some basic calculations.

Do not do this with the amp plugged in, with the power tubes in, or with the speaker connected.  Remember - dangerous voltages in amps...  make sure the filter caps are drained of DC before touching anything.

1. Identify the Windings

If it's in the amp, this will be simple, but otherwise, a multimeter can be used to find the different windings:

  • Primary winding (plate to plate): typically has a resistance of 50–300Ω.
  • Secondary winding (speaker side): usually very small, maybe even less than 1Ω.

If there's a centre tap on the primary, it's likely a push-pull transformer.  The measurement between the centre tap and the two plates is half the total plate to plate value.

2. Measure the Turns Ratio

Apply a known low AC voltage (like 1V) to the secondary and measure the resulting AC voltage across the primary. Then calculate:

Turns Ratio = Vprimary / Vsecondary

Example: If you apply 1V AC to the secondary and measure 22V across the primary, then the turns ratio is 22:1.     

You can also do the reverse, and apply a larger voltage across the primary (like 20v) and measure the secondaries.   This is probably safer, as the AC voltage will be stepped down, not up.  I normally use 15v, cause that’s heading towards the upper limit of one of my signal generators.     

3. Estimate the Primary Impedance

Once you know the turns ratio, you can estimate the reflected primary impedance using:

Zprimary = (Turns Ratio)2 × Zsecondary

Example:

Zprimary = 222 × 8 = 3,872Ω

4. Check for Shorts or Opens

Use a multimeter to confirm continuity across each winding. Also make sure there's no continuity between any winding and the core or mounting hardware. If there is, the transformer may have an internal short and should not be used.   Also watch out for any high values - if it reads a few meg, that’s a bad sign. 

5. Check Frequency Response (Optional)

If you have a signal generator and oscilloscope, you can sweep an audio signal through the transformer and observe the output for frequency roll-off or resonant peaks.  Note that a low e on guitar is about 80hz and most speakers drop off pretty fast after 5kHz.   A lot of Hammond transformers intended for guitar amps list 75hz to 15kHz as their frequency response

What you are looking for here is significant changes to the size of the sine wave displayed on the scope.  i.e. when the wave decreases in size, the AC voltage is dropping, meaning that the frequency response is changing by a noticeable amount.   It's not as accurate as a spectrum analyser, but it's close enough for a guitar amp, considering the kind of speaker and cab that it will be hooked up to.

6. Visual Clues

  • A center tap on the primary usually means it’s for a push-pull amp.
  • A gapped core is a sign it’s for single-ended operation.
  • Larger transformers with thicker wire usually handle more power and lower impedance loads.

Reference: Typical Load Impedances

Tube Configuration Typical Primary Impedance
6V6, single-ended5k – 8kΩ
6V6, push-pull (pair)8k – 10kΩ
6L6, single-ended3.5k – 5kΩ
6L6, push-pull (pair)4k – 6.6kΩ
EL84, push-pull (pair)~8kΩ
6L6, push-pull (quad)1.7k – 2.2kΩ

Tips from the Old Masters

“A 1-volt signal applied to the speaker winding should give you a good idea of the turns ratio just by measuring the voltage on the primary.”
— Jack Darr, Electric Guitar Amplifier Handbook

The Radiotron Designer’s Handbook also provides detailed transformer theory, including reflected impedance formulas, equivalent circuits, and response testing using low-voltage AC signals — all foundational concepts that support this method of transformer identification and testing.

From the Radiotron Designer’s Handbook:

Transformer impedance is reflected from secondary to primary in proportion to the square of the turns ratio:
Reflected Impedance = Load × (Turns Ratio)2

The handbook also discusses transformer response across frequency and how to analyze bandwidth using -3 dB points, supporting AC test methods for audio applications.

Source: Radiotron Designer’s Handbook, 4th Edition
⚠️ Caution — High Voltage:

Transformers can produce dangerously high voltages, even when powered by a seemingly low-voltage AC source. The windings in tube amplifier transformers are capable of stepping voltages up or down significantly. Always assume exposed leads may carry lethal voltages, and take proper safety precautions. Use insulated tools, never work on live circuits unless qualified, and ensure your test setup is isolated and safe.

Friday, March 7, 2025

TRANSFORMER: A&R 2504 output transformer

Rewired the one of the secondaries on this A&R 2504 output transformer from this Steanes Sound System S311 PA head for an 8 ohm speaker.  

This is very much a note to self for future reference:  approximately zero other people will be interested in this. 

Two bifilar winds in parallel were used for negative feedback (marked FB).   Wiring them in series increased the impedance to ~8 ohms.   Linking these was not my genius idea unfortunately - full credit to Tim Robbins and the work he has published on converting Australia valve PA amps.     

Normally the secondaries are as follows

1    FB
2    FB (just under 2ohms)
3    0 Common
4    125
5    250
6    500

6K P-P, 25w
Paired with EL34 

I’ll tidy up the wires later.   Had some other stuff to do - cyclone on the way….   



Saturday, December 14, 2024

ALTRONICS: M1120 Output Transformer

This humble little transformer is a favourite valve amp OT among some DIY folks in Australia, as it's cheap at only $27 and readily available from Altronics.   It's sold as a 20w 100v line transformer, but it also works really well as a 8k P-P output transformer.   Based on real world testing, it's thought to be closer to 15w, rather than 20w.

Here’s how you connect it: just follow the primary side and pick an output impedance that works for you (4, 8, or 16 ohms).

P: 1.25w 
CT:  5w
P: Common

These are perfect for replacing transformers in lower-power amps. I’ve even used one in an 8w push-pull PA head, and it sounds great.  Some old PA heads have output impedances that were meant for a bunch of 100v line speakers, not a single 8 or 16 ohm speaker. 

There's a few more versions available in the line with higher and lower wattages, but this one is probably the most commonly used.  The M1130 is larger, and with an impedance mismatch on the secondaries, it can be taken up to a 4k plate to plate load suitable for a pair of 6L6 not running too hot - they're used in the valve Heaven Lamington II.

Further reading:  Ozvalve amps

ALTRONICS M1120 OUTPUT TRANSFORMER




Altronics M1120 transformer


Frequency Response: 30Hz - 20kHz ±3dB
Secondary Taps: 4, 8 & 16 Ohm
Power taps: 1.25W, 2.5W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 20kHz ±3dB

HOW IS THIS CALCULATED?

Note the transformer’s rated voltage (100v). Square this voltage: 100 squared is 10,000.

Divide 10,000 by the wattage on each tap. The smallest wattage has the largest P-P value.

10,000 divided by 1.25 equals 8,000. Repeat for the rest of the taps.

To calculate the centre tap (CT), divide 8,000 by 4 and match it to the relevant tap. In this case, the CT is the 5w tap.   

If for some reason 4K P-P was required, then connections would be as follows:  P 2.5W, CT 10W, P common.   

ALTRONICS M1120
PRIMARYWattsP-P ValueCT
6 (P)1.258,0002,000
52.54,0001,000
4 (CT)52,000500
3101,000250
215667
120500
C (P)                    


Which is conveniently confirmed by the specs on the box.

Altronics M1122 transformer in box

and here's a youtube clip explaining the theory




 

Tuesday, November 5, 2024

HAMMOND: 1751M Output Transformer Datasheet

From the Hammond 1750 output transformer series, this is listed as a drop-in replacement for a Fender Vibrolux Tweed, 5F11  -  they're supposed to look similar to the original Fender transformer where possible.  That being said - this sticks out like dog’s balls when mounted on a crusty old amp. 

Materials etc are also supposed to be similar to get as close as they can (within reason I suppose).

Hammond 1751M transformer

It was a bargain, at $76 +GST (Australian dollars) from Mouser, including free delivery.  Like all things Hammond, it feels well made.  

  • 8,000 ohms plate to plate
  • 16, 8 & 4ohm secondary windings (these options would not have been on the original)
  • rated at 15w
  • bobbin wound
Turn Ratios
4 ohm turn ratio     44.77  (2004.35)
8 ohm turn ratio     31.58  (997.29)
16 ohm turn ratio   22.38  (500.86)

Frequency response
75hz to 15khz  

Inductance
19.66H

HAMMOND 1751M OUTPUT TRANSFORMER DATASHEET

HAMMOND 1751M OUTPUT TRANSFORMER DATASHEET




Sunday, June 23, 2024

VOX: AC4C1-12 Transformer Upgrade

Before I completely rip this Vox AC4 apart and rebuild the amp on tagboard, I thought I'd try swapping the output transformer (OT), just to see if it made any difference to the sound of the amp, as I've read conflicting views online.  

Cutting a very long post short - yes it did make a difference, it sounds much better in my opinion.  I'd already snipped the bright cap (C20) on the master volume and installed a vintage alnico speaker.  The transformer upgrade rounds things out very nicely.  Running 16ohms @ 5k:  No fizz, it sounds bigger and more open sounding.  The amp is cleaner sounding and the breakup is nicer.  It somehow sounds less boxy, which I can't figure out - maybe increased frequency response??  16ohms @ 10k is closer to the stock transformer spec, so some of the original tone returns - I much prefer 16ohms @ 5k.  

VOX AC4 OUTPUT TRANSFORMER SPECS

There's almost no information available on the stock Vox OT apart from the factory part number and that it's made in China.   I did a quick test after I pulled it out, and I found that it has a ~22:1 wind ratio.  With a 16ohm speaker, this puts about 7.4k on the EL84.  An 8 ohm speaker will drop this down to about 3.7k.  

A few forums posts say that it's 10k, I can only go off my own measurements. 

Wattage unknown - safe to say that it has to be at least 4 watts given the rating of the amp.  I'm going to take a guess and say that it's a little over-rated as it's a similar size to the Hammond, which is 8 watts.  Unlike the Hammond, there's no additional taps on the secondary.

Vox AC4 - stock output transformer vs Hammond 125CSE

Vox AC4 - stock output transformer vs Hammond 125CSE

HAMMOND 125CSE OUTPUT TRANSFORMER SPECS

I decided to use a Hammond 125CSE as it was available locally at a reasonable price, and the specs looked right.  Hammond transformers are made in Canada and seem to be quite well regarded (completely unrelated to Hammond organs by the way).  

The Hammond 125CSE is an 8w transformer - it has similar dimensions to the stock OT - conveniently the mounting is the same width, so no additional holes were required.  The Hammond felt a little bit heavier and generally speaking seems to be a better build quality.  It certainly sounds better.

There's plenty of information available on Hammond output transformers, the most important of which is on the diagram below.   By way of comparison to the stock OT, the 125CSE can run at 16 ohms with 5k on the EL84.  This is closer to how an EL84 is designed to operate.


Hammond 125CSE output transformer winding diagram

Hammond output transformer 125CSE frequency response

Hammond output transformer 125CSE frequency response

VOX AC4C1-12 OUTPUT TRANSFORMER UPGRADE

WARNING:  VALVE AMPS CONTAIN VERY HIGH VOLTAGES - LETHAL VOLTAGES CAN BE PRESENT, EVEN WHEN THE AMP IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE POWER.

I've marked up a few relevant items on the AC4C1 circuit board.  Both the 10" and 12" version are the same.

Vox AC4-C1 circuit board

In very simple terms,  I disconnected and reconnected P2, P8, P10 and P11 on the schematic below, with a replacement transformer and the addition of a rotary switch to allow three options on P10.

Vox AC4 schematic - output section


The first step is to remove the back of the amp - I like to leave the chassis on the back of the enclosure, as I find it easier to work on this way.  Naturally the amp is not plugged in at this stage, and hopefully has not been used recently (hot valves and potential for stored DC in caps).  Note that this mod involves the B+ supply to the EL84 - we're talking a 320V connection.  

The output transformer is connected to the board using fully insulated 1/4" 6.3mm female spades - these slide off, however some force is required to do this and the circuit boards are flimsy.  If you try this, take it slow and work very carefully.  

The primary connections to the output transformer are directly either side of the EL84 - there's very little room here.  I removed the EL84 before attempting to remove the spades connected to P8 & P2 using a combination of my fingers small pliers - a bit of gentle wiggling and force was required.

Same again for the secondary connections which are attached to the external speaker jack.  This board feels like it wants to snap off, and the spades face the large filter cap on the circuit board - not a great combination.   

Vox AC4 circuit board speaker connection

Note that there are actually 2 x P10 and 2 x P11 connections on the small circuit board that the extension speaker jack is mounted on - they're linked.  One pair from the OT, the other pair to the speaker.

Vox AC4 speaker connectionVox AC4 output transformer connections

After the wires were removed from the circuitboard, I removed the stock transformer.  Quick test placement of parts, before drilling the hole for the 3 way rotary switch.  Need to be really careful to make sure no waste from drilling the hole remains, as you don't want bits of metal sliding under that circuit board - boom!   

Vox AC4 transformer upgrade

I crimped new spades onto the Hammond transformer leads and bolted it onto the chassis - I did not trim the leads to the correct size, as I plan on rebuilding this amp at some stage.  I didn't want to cut anything short.  I used heat shrink to terminate the end of the unused orange secondary wire.

The primary windings (blue and brown wires) attach to P8 & P2 on the circuit board.

I'm using a 3-way rotary for the secondaries to increase output options as shown below.  I wired the three secondaries that I needed to a 3 way rotary (white, yellow & green).   The common pin on the rotary connects to P10.  The black secondary connects directly to P11 on the external speaker board. 

I have no plans to detail this process any further - if you can't work out what I mentioned above on your own, it's probably not advisably for you to be playing with high voltages.


I'll add proper labels for the rotary at a later date - while I know what the coloured dots mean, if I ever sell the amp, this will need to be clear to avoid issues.









  

HAMMOND: 125SE Output Transformer Data

Yes, this is super nerdy and I may be the only person that will ever find it useful - I combined the specs from the Hammond 125SE series into one table, as I found it really annoying to check through individual datasheets.

I recently installed one in a Vox AC4-C1 12 just to see if changing the transformer would improve the amp.  Short story, yes it did.

Hammond 125SE valve amp output transformer




HAMMOND 125 SERIES, UNIVERSAL SINGLE ENDED OUTPUT TRANSFORMER

A direct link to the table can be found here