This is not an encyclopaedic reference of every MKIII / MKIV that has ever existed, and it most likely never will be - this information has been poached from various online sources, so it may not all be 100% accurate. In some cases, it's difficult to have a definitive set of values for any one pedal, as they are known to change over time, with different production runs.
Where vales are unknown or unsure, you'll see a question mark in the table.
GENERIC MKIII / MKIV TONE BENDER SCHEMATIC
Common components have been left as is, and I know the 100uf cap varies, but it makes no difference really so I didn't see the point of listing every variation. Arguably there's also no difference between a 220pf and a 200pf cap either, but I put that in any way.
I've added the board below as a reference, as most MKIII boards look like this. I "borrowed" the image from a Antique Electronics file - they have some great products available, including this board.
So if you're looking at a gut shot online and are not quite sure what's what, this might be helpful. A few key things to look for.
- Bias resistors R1 & R2 on the base of Q1. These are conveniently marked with asterisks below - they frequently vary.
- The capacitor C3 on the emitter of Q3. This effects the bass response.
- The treble and bass caps - these are nearly always tweaked on D*A*M builds (which I quite like and frequently use)
The rest rarely change, or the changes are relatively minor in terms of sound. D*A*M does use a 470k volume pot and omits the resistor R4 between tone and volume controls. This is primarily a way to boost the output without really changing the tone.
EFFECT OF C2 ON BASS RESPONSE
C3 on the schematic tables above - Darlington pair emitter capacitor
C3 on the schematic tables above - same again but response taken at the output
R1 / R2 BIAS RESISTORS
Comparison of different bias resistors on the darlington pair, taken from the 220n cap
This compares 220k/47k, 680k/100k & 1M/100k
Apart from the output level, the resulting wave is a little different for each one, and of course 100n/47k vs 100n/100k form different high pass filters, resulting in a slight difference in low end. This can be further tailored with the value of C3 (the capacitor on the emitter of Q2).
So despite some people referring to it as just a boost stage, and that it doesn't matter that much - choices here do matter.
Higher bias resistors result in more gated sound, lower bias resistors provide a smoother sound - at least in my experience anyway. Different transistors in the darlington pair will come into play here as well, depending on how the bias etc - higher gain sets hit Q3 harder.
TREBLE N BASS VALUES
A lot of the character of the pedal comes from the filter section. I think it's fair to say that apart from the fuzz itself, this is the most important tone shaping section of the circuit.
Below are the frequency responses of some of the more common values found, with the tone pot in the centre position and swept to either side. Increasing C5 lowers the high-pass filter / corssover point of the treble and bass, bringing more high-mids into the mix. A side effect of this is that the treble side also gets louder, which can be balanced by the bass side to some degree, but it might also be worth increasing C3 to offset the change.
Hi Andy I have a D*A*M Colorsound Fuzz Sound if you would like any clear images to add to the list of components i'll be happy to send them to you! Apparently it's a take on the mk IV and the Greasebox for what it's worth. Regards, Phil.
ReplyDeleteThanks Phil, that would be great. Can you please email photos to guitarverop2p (at) gmail.com
ReplyDeleteWill do it tonight. Thanks for this great resource btw it's fantastic.
DeleteHey no problem, glad you find it useful.
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